Comments on: Can’t Tell the Players Without a Scorecard http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/ Skywatch and Blog Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:33:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Monsters « MotherSky http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-684 Monsters « MotherSky Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:36:18 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-684 [...] is continuing its long, slow opposition to the collective Sun-Jupiter-Venus conjunction (ethics and values) [...] [...] is continuing its long, slow opposition to the collective Sun-Jupiter-Venus conjunction (ethics and values) [...]

]]> By: Jessica Murray http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-321 Jessica Murray Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:31:46 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-321 Rumple,<br />Congratulations! There's only one way you can go now: freer and freer.<br />Jessica Rumple,
Congratulations! There's only one way you can go now: freer and freer.
Jessica

]]> By: Rumpelstiltskin http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-320 Rumpelstiltskin Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:23:05 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-320 <i>But what have we just learned about this guy in the suit and tie? Is he our buddy? Is Wall Street’s reality the same as yours and mine?</i><br /><br />I would say the answer is no! It's not that he's an enemy though. They are concerned with making money for themselves and the big players can make it whether the market rises or falls. While this may seem completely obvious, and also that investment firms obviously manage both strategies for their clients, it seems to have created far too much instability in its current form for those who value relative security and long term sustainable growth of investments. <br /><br />In other words, I think there are too many people invested in failure for regular people to invest in success in such an abstract form as the stock market. I've taken all my money that I could out of the market. I still have a small 401k balance and a few completely underwater stocks but everything else has been liquidated and I don't have any intention of getting back in. I've decided I'll do my own investing outside of the markets if I'm interested in investing. It has to be something I'm actually intimately involved in at this point for me to have any confidence. The sense of liberation from the ticker has been incredible. It's just awesome to not really care what the markets are doing. It's an awesome feeling to not be invested in this system. But what have we just learned about this guy in the suit and tie? Is he our buddy? Is Wall Street’s reality the same as yours and mine?

I would say the answer is no! It's not that he's an enemy though. They are concerned with making money for themselves and the big players can make it whether the market rises or falls. While this may seem completely obvious, and also that investment firms obviously manage both strategies for their clients, it seems to have created far too much instability in its current form for those who value relative security and long term sustainable growth of investments.

In other words, I think there are too many people invested in failure for regular people to invest in success in such an abstract form as the stock market. I've taken all my money that I could out of the market. I still have a small 401k balance and a few completely underwater stocks but everything else has been liquidated and I don't have any intention of getting back in. I've decided I'll do my own investing outside of the markets if I'm interested in investing. It has to be something I'm actually intimately involved in at this point for me to have any confidence. The sense of liberation from the ticker has been incredible. It's just awesome to not really care what the markets are doing. It's an awesome feeling to not be invested in this system.

]]> By: Jessica Murray http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-319 Jessica Murray Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:46:44 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-319 Thank you for your input, Joseph.<br />The transits upcoming indicate to me that the People (Uranus) could rise up and force Obama to personify the values you nention, -- this is not "fated": it's no more or less than a potential -- but the masses would have to thoroughly wake up, first. (I don't believe it's about what Obama-the-man will or won't do. He's a centrist; and over the past few years in the USA the center has been pushed so far to the right that "centrism" means something different than it used to.) It would be nothing less than revolutionary if this happened, but the potential is there. The potential is also there for the media and the elites to co-opt any such uprising, which is what we're seeing now.<br />What ends up happening depends on the level of mass consciousness, created anew at every moment.<br />Blessings of the New Moon to us all,<br />Jessica Thank you for your input, Joseph.
The transits upcoming indicate to me that the People (Uranus) could rise up and force Obama to personify the values you nention, — this is not "fated": it's no more or less than a potential — but the masses would have to thoroughly wake up, first. (I don't believe it's about what Obama-the-man will or won't do. He's a centrist; and over the past few years in the USA the center has been pushed so far to the right that "centrism" means something different than it used to.) It would be nothing less than revolutionary if this happened, but the potential is there. The potential is also there for the media and the elites to co-opt any such uprising, which is what we're seeing now.
What ends up happening depends on the level of mass consciousness, created anew at every moment.
Blessings of the New Moon to us all,
Jessica

]]> By: Joseph http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-318 Joseph Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:14:13 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-318 I wonder whether "The Rest of Us" are ready to take hold of the cosmic steering wheel to drive us to take the morally correct actions begging our attention at this critical time -- end our two wars, establish corporate and personal accountability and responsibility, create a health-care system based on wellness and prevention, and so on.<br /><br />If we take our president as the embodiment of "The Rest of Us" -- maybe not an appropriate assumption, but... -- I see no indication that bold ethical action rising from humanistic principles is anywhere at hand. <br /><br />Is there anything in the stars that can encourage our Leader to lead us with less hope and more audacity?<br /><br />As always, Jessica, thank you for your insightful analysis. I wonder whether "The Rest of Us" are ready to take hold of the cosmic steering wheel to drive us to take the morally correct actions begging our attention at this critical time — end our two wars, establish corporate and personal accountability and responsibility, create a health-care system based on wellness and prevention, and so on.

If we take our president as the embodiment of "The Rest of Us" — maybe not an appropriate assumption, but… — I see no indication that bold ethical action rising from humanistic principles is anywhere at hand.

Is there anything in the stars that can encourage our Leader to lead us with less hope and more audacity?

As always, Jessica, thank you for your insightful analysis.

]]> By: Jessica Murray http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-317 Jessica Murray Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:57:03 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-317 Good morning, Mo,<br />I agree with you about Iran. As if suddenly there were this hot spot that we all need to be focusing upon, as opposed to all the other hot spots all over the globe. It's a time-worn deflection device: rallying the populace through a supposedly common enemy. (As you suggest, we'll never see this kind of media attention paid to, say, that teenage bride in Saudi Arabia last month; sentenced to death for the crime of marrying without her father's permission.)<br />At least there is more public awareness than there was, about the economy, about just about everything. But collective consciousness has a very slow arc, and the era may not wait for our understanding to catch up.<br />Thank you for writing.<br />Jessica Good morning, Mo,
I agree with you about Iran. As if suddenly there were this hot spot that we all need to be focusing upon, as opposed to all the other hot spots all over the globe. It's a time-worn deflection device: rallying the populace through a supposedly common enemy. (As you suggest, we'll never see this kind of media attention paid to, say, that teenage bride in Saudi Arabia last month; sentenced to death for the crime of marrying without her father's permission.)
At least there is more public awareness than there was, about the economy, about just about everything. But collective consciousness has a very slow arc, and the era may not wait for our understanding to catch up.
Thank you for writing.
Jessica

]]> By: Mo Davies http://www.mothersky.com/2009/06/cant-tell-the-players-without-a-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-316 Mo Davies Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:00:00 +0000 http://mothersky.tod0.com/?p=837#comment-316 It's interesting you should raise these matters as I was just thinking about matters economic yesterday. It's like we're supposed to live in a europhic bubble that all the hoo-haa about the economic crisis is behind us, so back to business as usual and let's continue living in an illusionary oasis ignoring the economic wilderness around us. The same business that brought on the crisis? The same gross greediness? The same Gordon Getto repeat ad nauseum in the hope we forget the last economic bubble bust? At this time I'm interested in the focus on Iran (forget the lack of democracy in other pro-Western/US Middle Eastern nations, hey, their leaders love us and our billions in hand-outs), which is very handy to deflect attention from the economic shenanigans going on unabated in Western nations and creating unimaginable hardship and suffering in Third World countries. Time to consider how we, the people, are going to set about running things in a radically different way that cares for the majority, not a small swag of ultra-greed merchants. It's interesting you should raise these matters as I was just thinking about matters economic yesterday. It's like we're supposed to live in a europhic bubble that all the hoo-haa about the economic crisis is behind us, so back to business as usual and let's continue living in an illusionary oasis ignoring the economic wilderness around us. The same business that brought on the crisis? The same gross greediness? The same Gordon Getto repeat ad nauseum in the hope we forget the last economic bubble bust? At this time I'm interested in the focus on Iran (forget the lack of democracy in other pro-Western/US Middle Eastern nations, hey, their leaders love us and our billions in hand-outs), which is very handy to deflect attention from the economic shenanigans going on unabated in Western nations and creating unimaginable hardship and suffering in Third World countries. Time to consider how we, the people, are going to set about running things in a radically different way that cares for the majority, not a small swag of ultra-greed merchants.

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