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		<title>By: America, SCOTUS, corporations, and the Saturn/Pluto square &#187; AstroDispatch.com &#187; Astrology Around The Web</title>
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		<dc:creator>America, SCOTUS, corporations, and the Saturn/Pluto square &#187; AstroDispatch.com &#187; Astrology Around The Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 20:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jessica Murray&#8217;s article asserts, Monsters have been created, and The Creature from Jekyll Island lives and thrives at our expense while [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Sacelli</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>John Sacelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pluto is not &#039;corruption&#039; - it is transformation.  Which of course may be corrupted, but does not imply that it will be so.  A Pluto opposition, such as that you cite to Sun-Venus-Jupiter is not a statement to choose between Piscean bliss and Capricornian repression, but a requirement to transform the structures - civil, social, economic, governmental - which hold in place the possibility of achieving some measure of Piscean Unity.  This is alchemy.  That not every battle will be won and not every direction taken a healthy one is simply part of the process, and there are no guarantees of an enlightened outcome  -  any more than any of dozens of dangerous passages in this country&#039;s history were guaranteed to end successfully.  Speak to the specifics - but don&#039;t warp the astrological interpretations into a forecast of the &#039;death of democracy&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pluto is not &#8216;corruption&#8217; &#8211; it is transformation.  Which of course may be corrupted, but does not imply that it will be so.  A Pluto opposition, such as that you cite to Sun-Venus-Jupiter is not a statement to choose between Piscean bliss and Capricornian repression, but a requirement to transform the structures &#8211; civil, social, economic, governmental &#8211; which hold in place the possibility of achieving some measure of Piscean Unity.  This is alchemy.  That not every battle will be won and not every direction taken a healthy one is simply part of the process, and there are no guarantees of an enlightened outcome  &#8211;  any more than any of dozens of dangerous passages in this country&#8217;s history were guaranteed to end successfully.  Speak to the specifics &#8211; but don&#8217;t warp the astrological interpretations into a forecast of the &#8216;death of democracy&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: covelodee</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>covelodee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Network of Spiritual Progressives has just announced a conference at U.C. S.F. on Feb. 15 to focus on developing positive ideas and programs for an economy and society that more fully embody the countries highest values.  Michael Lerner, Bill Moyer and many other progressive leaders will be there.  They also plan a four-day conference in Washington, D.C.  Details at www.spiritualprogressives.org.  It sounds like a time and place to meet other concerned citizens.

Dee Mullen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Network of Spiritual Progressives has just announced a conference at U.C. S.F. on Feb. 15 to focus on developing positive ideas and programs for an economy and society that more fully embody the countries highest values.  Michael Lerner, Bill Moyer and many other progressive leaders will be there.  They also plan a four-day conference in Washington, D.C.  Details at <a href="http://www.spiritualprogressives.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiritualprogressives.org</a>.  It sounds like a time and place to meet other concerned citizens.</p>
<p>Dee Mullen</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Burris</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Burris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 23:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been considering the upcoming astrological aspects that take us back to 
a semblance of the revolutionary 60&#039;s. If the current and upcoming aspects are 
to take us to a new level I have a few ideas on how that may be achieved. 
&gt; 
&gt; The recent court recognition of corporations as having individual rights will 
pump extraordinary amounts of money into the political campaigns in the upcoming 
elections. I would propose that the best way for the uprising of the masses to 
take place is at the voting booth. 
&gt; 
&gt; If Americans want to take back their rights and make their votes count then 
they need to elect representatives to the legislature that represent their 
voices. My proposal is that communities select educated, common sense, 
individuals that are non-career politicians and are willing to fulfill the role 
as a privilege to serve their country. They will be middle of the road small 
business owners, educators, etc.  representing those who are not interested in 
the extremes of the left or right. They will be Independents. The upcoming 
elections are ripe for Independents to finally draw the winning percentage of 
votes do to the up welling of outrage over partisan bickering of  the two 
current parties. This will be especially so for the presidential election in 
2012. 
&gt; 
&gt; If we pushed through the Internet for every community to support these 
independents we would force the corporations and lobbyists to fund both of the 
other parties, to their financial ruin, in order to defeat the populace 
candidates. The last election proved the effectiveness of the Internet in 
swinging an election. 
&gt; 
&gt; The most important note is that the elected candidates are given an agenda of 
the people. Every year elected officials kick the difficult issues down the road 
in order to achieve party objectives of reelection and majority at the loss of 
effectively addressing critical measures. First and foremost would be the 
legislation of term limitations and the repeal of any perks not afforded the 
common citizen. The list would consist of ten agreed upon critical issues to be 
addressed, not in order ,but all in short period with effective common sense. 
&gt; 
&gt; SAMPLE  LIST (NOT In specific order) 
&gt; 
&gt; 1. Term limits and perk elimination for both houses. 
&gt; 
&gt; 2. Financial reform for banking and investment firms. 
&gt; 
&gt; 3. Beneficial economic stimulus. 
&gt; 
&gt; 4. Troop draw down to 10% levels around the world for peacekeeping and 
information gathering only. 
&gt; 
&gt; 5. Massive reduction in military spending 
&gt; 
&gt; 6. Tax reform 
&gt; 
&gt; 7. Healthcare reform 
&gt; 
&gt; 8. Lobby reform/elimination of corporate contributions. 
&gt; 
&gt; 9. Prison reform 
&gt; 
&gt; 10. Aggressive reform of fraud in government programs 
&gt; 
&gt; The candidates elected will need a demonstration of accomplishment and 
progress or suffer recall if they are not effective. Big business would be 
financially crushed trying to defeat the popular candidates and the laws enacted 
upon their election would effectively move us forward. Over the next 6 years we 
could accomplish a voter revolution and allow the foundation for a new start in 
the US as the long term politicians would be replaced. 
&gt; 
&gt; I call for a launch for &quot;TEN in &#039;10&quot;.  The election of &quot;an Independent Party 
to Provide the Foundation for a New America&quot;. 

 I would also ask that everyone do their part to get the list 
of ten agenda items, as an action item to be discussed, on the editorial pages of 
every local and national paper as well as on every Sunday morning political 
program and every college campus in the country. 
&gt; 
 This is an opportunity to provide people with the hope that they can be 
empowered to make consistent and positive change through their individual 
efforts.  Let this be our &quot;Moon Shot&quot;.
 

 Gary Burris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been considering the upcoming astrological aspects that take us back to<br />
a semblance of the revolutionary 60&#8217;s. If the current and upcoming aspects are<br />
to take us to a new level I have a few ideas on how that may be achieved.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The recent court recognition of corporations as having individual rights will<br />
pump extraordinary amounts of money into the political campaigns in the upcoming<br />
elections. I would propose that the best way for the uprising of the masses to<br />
take place is at the voting booth.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; If Americans want to take back their rights and make their votes count then<br />
they need to elect representatives to the legislature that represent their<br />
voices. My proposal is that communities select educated, common sense,<br />
individuals that are non-career politicians and are willing to fulfill the role<br />
as a privilege to serve their country. They will be middle of the road small<br />
business owners, educators, etc.  representing those who are not interested in<br />
the extremes of the left or right. They will be Independents. The upcoming<br />
elections are ripe for Independents to finally draw the winning percentage of<br />
votes do to the up welling of outrage over partisan bickering of  the two<br />
current parties. This will be especially so for the presidential election in<br />
2012.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; If we pushed through the Internet for every community to support these<br />
independents we would force the corporations and lobbyists to fund both of the<br />
other parties, to their financial ruin, in order to defeat the populace<br />
candidates. The last election proved the effectiveness of the Internet in<br />
swinging an election.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The most important note is that the elected candidates are given an agenda of<br />
the people. Every year elected officials kick the difficult issues down the road<br />
in order to achieve party objectives of reelection and majority at the loss of<br />
effectively addressing critical measures. First and foremost would be the<br />
legislation of term limitations and the repeal of any perks not afforded the<br />
common citizen. The list would consist of ten agreed upon critical issues to be<br />
addressed, not in order ,but all in short period with effective common sense.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; SAMPLE  LIST (NOT In specific order)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 1. Term limits and perk elimination for both houses.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 2. Financial reform for banking and investment firms.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 3. Beneficial economic stimulus.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 4. Troop draw down to 10% levels around the world for peacekeeping and<br />
information gathering only.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 5. Massive reduction in military spending<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 6. Tax reform<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 7. Healthcare reform<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 8. Lobby reform/elimination of corporate contributions.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 9. Prison reform<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 10. Aggressive reform of fraud in government programs<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The candidates elected will need a demonstration of accomplishment and<br />
progress or suffer recall if they are not effective. Big business would be<br />
financially crushed trying to defeat the popular candidates and the laws enacted<br />
upon their election would effectively move us forward. Over the next 6 years we<br />
could accomplish a voter revolution and allow the foundation for a new start in<br />
the US as the long term politicians would be replaced.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I call for a launch for &#8220;TEN in &#8216;10&#8243;.  The election of &#8220;an Independent Party<br />
to Provide the Foundation for a New America&#8221;. </p>
<p> I would also ask that everyone do their part to get the list<br />
of ten agenda items, as an action item to be discussed, on the editorial pages of<br />
every local and national paper as well as on every Sunday morning political<br />
program and every college campus in the country.<br />
&gt;<br />
 This is an opportunity to provide people with the hope that they can be<br />
empowered to make consistent and positive change through their individual<br />
efforts.  Let this be our &#8220;Moon Shot&#8221;.</p>
<p> Gary Burris</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-710</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this will just cause our boundaries to expand for some people, and contract for others.  I have no problem leaving the USA if things get too crazy here.  If people choose to be ruled by corporations, give all their tax money to war machine, deny basic health and human services it&#039;s obvious people can do better elsewhere.  Our standard of living is falling behind and we are sacrificing tomorrow for today, thinking someone else will pay.  Why would the future generations agree to this?  I bet they won&#039;t.  Why should I pay for the debts incurred by a foolish government when I see no benefit for myself in those policies?  I can &quot;outsource&quot; myself to a place where things are more civilized.  I&#039;m a citizen of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this will just cause our boundaries to expand for some people, and contract for others.  I have no problem leaving the USA if things get too crazy here.  If people choose to be ruled by corporations, give all their tax money to war machine, deny basic health and human services it&#8217;s obvious people can do better elsewhere.  Our standard of living is falling behind and we are sacrificing tomorrow for today, thinking someone else will pay.  Why would the future generations agree to this?  I bet they won&#8217;t.  Why should I pay for the debts incurred by a foolish government when I see no benefit for myself in those policies?  I can &#8220;outsource&#8221; myself to a place where things are more civilized.  I&#8217;m a citizen of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-700</link>
		<dc:creator>nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stella, I feel like screeching at you.  Turley clearly doesn&#039;t understand the ramifications of giving Corporations Personhood and calling money speech went way beyond the scope of a movie.  The supreme court ask Citezens United to re argue their case so that they could expand the scope of the case so they could do this.  Corporate media is clapping because they are big corporations.  We will lose the internet and their will have to be a revolution or a police state.  Hopefully a Velvet Revolution.  This is as big or bigger than September 11.  I am on my knees.  

Nancy Brickman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stella, I feel like screeching at you.  Turley clearly doesn&#8217;t understand the ramifications of giving Corporations Personhood and calling money speech went way beyond the scope of a movie.  The supreme court ask Citezens United to re argue their case so that they could expand the scope of the case so they could do this.  Corporate media is clapping because they are big corporations.  We will lose the internet and their will have to be a revolution or a police state.  Hopefully a Velvet Revolution.  This is as big or bigger than September 11.  I am on my knees.  </p>
<p>Nancy Brickman</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Garrison</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-699</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Garrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this insightful analysis!  I am really grateful for Soul Sick Nation, and for this blog. I can&#039;t say I enjoyed finding out so many ugly things about our country, but it&#039;s always better -- and perhaps vital, given our current circumstances -- to bring all this corruption to light.  I wonder if there is any hope of preventing the US from becoming, not just a home-grown fascist state, but a state run by international corporations?  Maybe these newly minted &quot;persons&quot; will starve to death when the oil runs out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this insightful analysis!  I am really grateful for Soul Sick Nation, and for this blog. I can&#8217;t say I enjoyed finding out so many ugly things about our country, but it&#8217;s always better &#8212; and perhaps vital, given our current circumstances &#8212; to bring all this corruption to light.  I wonder if there is any hope of preventing the US from becoming, not just a home-grown fascist state, but a state run by international corporations?  Maybe these newly minted &#8220;persons&#8221; will starve to death when the oil runs out?</p>
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		<title>By: Stella</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you write is reactive and too simplistic. Are you aware that the ACLU, who is hardly the promoter of corporate power, agreed with the majority decision.  For a balanced opinion of this decision, I highly recommend reading this post:

http://jonathanturley.org/2010/01/21/supreme-court-rules-5-4-against-campaign-limitations-in-the-hillary-the-movie-case/

And these posts are insightful and informative:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/22/citizens_united/index.html 

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/23/citizens_united/index.html

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/radio/2010/01/24/romero/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you write is reactive and too simplistic. Are you aware that the ACLU, who is hardly the promoter of corporate power, agreed with the majority decision.  For a balanced opinion of this decision, I highly recommend reading this post:</p>
<p><a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2010/01/21/supreme-court-rules-5-4-against-campaign-limitations-in-the-hillary-the-movie-case/" rel="nofollow">http://jonathanturley.org/2010/01/21/supreme-court-rules-5-4-against-campaign-limitations-in-the-hillary-the-movie-case/</a></p>
<p>And these posts are insightful and informative:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/22/citizens_united/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/22/citizens_united/index.html</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/23/citizens_united/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/23/citizens_united/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/radio/2010/01/24/romero/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/radio/2010/01/24/romero/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Jessica, by the way, there is an excellent article on the outrage this has caused and the legal steps being made to seek an ammendment to this atrocity on Let&#039;s try Democracy...http://davidswanson.org/...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jessica, by the way, there is an excellent article on the outrage this has caused and the legal steps being made to seek an ammendment to this atrocity on Let&#8217;s try Democracy&#8230;http://davidswanson.org/&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.mothersky.com/2010/01/monsters/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Bob, for adding this excellent detail to the analysis. You&#039;ve shown how the symbolism spells everything out. This allows us to keep perspective despite the troubling nature of these developments: Once we see the energies encrypted in archetypal form, we can understand their bigger purpose, and respond rather than react to them. -- Jessica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Bob, for adding this excellent detail to the analysis. You&#8217;ve shown how the symbolism spells everything out. This allows us to keep perspective despite the troubling nature of these developments: Once we see the energies encrypted in archetypal form, we can understand their bigger purpose, and respond rather than react to them. &#8212; Jessica</p>
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